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Posts: 43 Jul 26 10 7:35 AM	Tags : isometrics Remove this ad Edited 1 time by BigBruvOfEngIandUK Oct 3 10 6:17 AM.
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pierini.combatmartialarts		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3156 Jul 26 10 9:10 AM Caneguru	An infrequent and nice change of pace closer to my workouts - a "better than nothing" workout on all other days. "You are only as good as your last workout. You are what you eat." Middle-age man words of wisdom.
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muchofmuchness.combatmartialarts		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1122 Jul 26 10 11:24 AM Caneguru	Good for a pump, little else. Proud to be a Wile E. Coyote
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gruntbrain		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 8785 Jul 26 10 12:40 PM Caneguru Grunt & Shen's Workshop Geezer Strength!	Try a medley of timed isometric holds nonstop for several minutes - eg alternate timed push/pull holds. In addition to strength building , you get some heart healthy endurance building Sweat for salvation Even Darwin can appreciate the HOOK's Intelligent Design
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FredHutch		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1466 Jul 26 10 12:48 PM Caneguru	If by "aerobic isometrics" you mean holding the tension for a minute or longer, my experience was just what Steve Justa said it would be: radically improved definition and enhanced explosiveness. In the interests of full disclosure, however, I should mention that the summer I did these really seriously I trained the entire body every day with long hold isos and each workout took about two hours per day. I was already quite lean to begin with, by the end of the summer I was so defined I looked like a freak, had horizontal grooves across the lower back, striations and veins everywhere, and my skin looked as thin as plastic wrap. One downside was that I was even more irritable than usual, I basically felt dragged out all the time. I think Steve Justa is one of the most honest writers in this crazy field and the training does what he says if you work at it, and indeed this type of training is very hard work if you do it correctly...if it feels easy you're not doing it right. I intend to do that kind of training again someday, but not in the summer, it's too damn hot. Cheers, Fred
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gruntbrain		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 8785 Jul 26 10 12:56 PM Caneguru Grunt & Shen's Workshop Geezer Strength!	Fred is right about the summer heat being an intense training drag; I've been away from my beloved Left Coast for over a week Sweat for salvation Even Darwin can appreciate the HOOK's Intelligent Design
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Posts: 43 Jul 26 10 1:26 PM	Thank you guys, and thank you Fred for the info v helpfull, i'll be aiming for 1 minute holds i guess then :) on a side note Ive had a week off cause of a back prob dammit need to kick maself back into gear
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Posts: 10102 Jul 26 10 1:55 PM Demoted The troll who drives good people away Exiled to his little island, he spends his day taking cheap shots at people and making bad jokes	FredHutch wrote: If by "aerobic isometrics" you mean holding the tension for a minute or longer, my experience was just what Steve Justa said it would be: radically improved definition and enhanced explosiveness. In the interests of full disclosure, however, I should mention that the summer I did these really seriously I trained the entire body every day with long hold isos and each workout took about two hours per day. I was already quite lean to begin with, by the end of the summer I was so defined I looked like a freak, had horizontal grooves across the lower back, striations and veins everywhere, and my skin looked as thin as plastic wrap. One downside was that I was even more irritable than usual, I basically felt dragged out all the time. I think Steve Justa is one of the most honest writers in this crazy field and the training does what he says if you work at it, and indeed this type of training is very hard work if you do it correctly...if it feels easy you're not doing it right. I intend to do that kind of training again someday, but not in the summer, it's too damn hot. Cheers, Fred So youre going to do a form of training that makes you irritable? Bruv World
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Posts: 43 Jul 26 10 2:17 PM	yes :P lol will be mixing it in with my std iso's and isotonic exercises , am thinking its the long work outs that made fred irritable Edited 1 time by pageFrame Jul 26 10 2:21 PM.
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JustinP		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1267 Jul 26 10 2:53 PM Caneguru	I used these isometric holds a lot in my training. I find them very useful for strength building. There are a lot of times when I'm called to apply muscular tension for several seconds or more. This is probably the most useful form of isometric training, IMO.
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Shenandoah 1		#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 12038 Jul 26 10 3:11 PM Captain Caneguru Chia junkie BUY THE HOOK	Remove this ad JustinP wrote: This is probably the most useful form of isometric training, IMO. Are you referring to "aerobic isometrics"? Who coined that term, anyway? Anyone know? Fred should let you all know that he felt especially irritable towards the end of each month. Beer! That frothy, golden nectar of the Germanic gods! Sierra Exercise Equipment
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gruntbrain		#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 8785 Jul 26 10 3:34 PM Caneguru Grunt & Shen's Workshop Geezer Strength!	Rasslin' with a training partner will give ya an aerobic isometric workout. It's the kinda workout that'd make Mr Aerobic Isometrics, Steve Justa, proud. Yeah & don't forget Shen's Iso Strap is a good "partner" Sweat for salvation Even Darwin can appreciate the HOOK's Intelligent Design
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FredHutch		#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1466 Jul 26 10 6:53 PM Caneguru	I think the reason I was so irritable that summer was because I had just about no fat left on me, I think that condition leaves you too close to the edge, if you know what I mean. My purpose that year was to take the aerobic isos to the limit to see what they could really do, an experiment really. I proved to my satisfaction that they really do de-fat you if you work at them. I would like to do them again but needless to say I would not be so extreme, there really isn't any practical need to be that defined unless you're a movie star. Cheers, Fred
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redfishbluefish.combatmartialarts		#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1462 Jul 26 10 7:05 PM Caneguru	Fred, do you remember what your diet was like at the time?
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Tommy Helms		#14	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4734 Jul 26 10 7:10 PM Caneguru	Are there any holds you would recommend more so than others...for those of us pressed for time. Thanks
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FredHutch		#15	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1466 Jul 26 10 7:39 PM Caneguru	Donna, I seem to recall I cut my calories just slightly but other than that I continued, as always, to eat anything I please, including ice cream every night. That seems to be the beauty of the aerobic iso thing, you really don't need any special diet if you're in reasonable condition already. Jeez, if Parker were here he would already be hollering at the top of his baby lungs about how only conventional aerobics and diet causes fat loss, ad nauseum... TH, that's difficult to say since in those two hour workouts I would do just about every position for each bodypart that I could think of, for example for legs I would do straight leg pushes in four directions, for shoulders I would do laterals in every direction, for chest I would do incline, middle, and decline stuff, etc...but what I would suggest is to just pick one position for each bodypart for each workout and then do a different exercise next time, for example for the shoulders, workout one do front laterals, next workout do rear laterals, etc... I should mention also that I don't see long-hold isos as a complete workout in itself, if I were to do them again today it would be in conjunction with other types of training. Cheers, Fred
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Tommy Helms		#16	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4734 Jul 26 10 7:51 PM Caneguru	FredHutch wrote: TH, that's difficult to say since in those two hour workouts I would do just about every position for each bodypart that I could think of, for example for legs I would do straight leg pushes in four directions, for shoulders I would do laterals in every direction, for chest I would do incline, middle, and decline stuff, etc...but what I would suggest is to just pick one position for each bodypart for each workout and then do a different exercise next time, for example for the shoulders, workout one do front laterals, next workout do rear laterals, etc... I should mention also that I don't see long-hold isos as a complete workout in itself, if I were to do them again today it would be in conjunction with other types of training. Cheers, Fred That sounds logical. Thanks for the advice.
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Posts: 43 Jul 27 10 5:36 AM	i think im gona update my training to include them today :) , very interesting thread didnt expect it to spark so much conversation :D
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gruntbrain		#18	[url]	[-]
Posts: 8785 Jul 27 10 7:41 PM Caneguru Grunt & Shen's Workshop Geezer Strength!	Tug o' War - a total body aerobic isometric Perform that death struggle using a thich rope or Shen's Iso Strap( with or without a partner) Sweat for salvation Even Darwin can appreciate the HOOK's Intelligent Design
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Alan Oldstudent.charlesatlasfel...		#19	[url]	[-]
Posts: 535 Jul 28 10 3:30 AM Square peg	gruntbrain wrote: Tug o' War - a total body aerobic isometric Perform that death struggle using a thich rope or Shen's Iso Strap( with or without a partner) Hi Grunt, I've been playing with Shen's Iso Strap (without a partner) for a couple of weeks now as an adjunct. I must say I really like it. It seems well designed, what with the numbered loops. Although the design is simple, it is very cleverly conceived. I have been doing a variety of isometrics with it, especially military press, standing "bench press," and side raises, in addition to dynamic stuff like rows from the gizmo that hooks at the top of my door. I find I can use a metal pipe I have as an accessory for the strap. When I do the isos, I breathe deeply first, slowly increase the tension to about 95% of maximum, hold it for 7 seconds, and slowly decrease the tension. It takes a lot of focus and concentration. My goals are probably a lot more modest than a lot of guys here, and that has an effect on how I exercise. I never got JP's strap, and I've heard good things about it. Being short of funds, I just did not want to get it. I gather its fans think the book that comes with it is part of its value, but I probably have the information available to me from other sources. But Shen's straps really work well with his "The Hook," and I am glad I got them. Look for my review of them, as well as the bands, on my blog when I get time to write it. Regards, Alan OldStudent The Unexamined Life Is Not Worth Living -- Socrates My Web Site
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BigBruvOfEngIandUK		#20	[url]	[-]
Posts: 10102 Jul 28 10 3:49 AM Demoted The troll who drives good people away Exiled to his little island, he spends his day taking cheap shots at people and making bad jokes	Remove this ad Alan Oldstudent wrote: standing "bench press," Chest press Bruv World
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