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longcharles

2 1/2 months to get ripped

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(06/05/09 06:03:45)

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I have about 2 1/2 months before a 30 year picnic for my high school graduating class. It's 170 miles away so I don't yet know if I'm going to make it. I still need to drop some fat around my waist (probably less than 10 pounds) and I will no doubt be the best looking guy there.

I have been practicing intermittent fasting and have been losing some fat and I exercise every day. I'm starting to show some vascularity in my arms so the thin layer of fat there is leaving. I would prefer it leave my waist first but it's not.

What I want from this fine group of men is advice on what I can do for the next 2 1/2 months to drop this stubborn fat so that I will look good at this reunion should I decide to go. So let me have it. Give me your best and your worst. I want to hear it all.

http://longsfitness.blogspot.com

pierini.combatmartialarts

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(06/05/09 06:46:18)

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Charles, can you detail your current training mix for a representative week. The more specific the better. Will you go to the reunion in a pair of speedos so your old high school buds and babes can see your chisel and that you are ripped?

"You are only as good as your last workout. You are what you eat." Middle-age man words of wisdom. Visit me at http://pierini-fitness.blogspot.com/

Bruno

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(06/05/09 08:05:52)

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Brad Pillon the Eat Stop Eat author says that it simply comes down to calorie restriction (he does discuss macronutrients etc but simply put you can do it with calorie restriction). Even after all the fancy science. He says IF lets you get there easier. Two 24 hour fasts in a week. After your dinner on a given evening don't eat again until the next dinner. The next day eat normally and do it again after that day. As long as exercise the body knows not to use muscle and it should dip into the belly fat eventually.

A Primalist like Mark Sisson says to eat meat, veggies, some fruit and eliminate starch, sugar, flour, processed foods and bread- stay between 50 to 150 carbs per day, under 50 for rapid fat loss. He also suggests some intermittant fasting or at least skipping meals or not being bound to a routine of eating because you are supposed to eat at a given time.

Bruno

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(06/05/09 08:18:20)

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	Douglis upplied this link in another thread. As for weightloss,Brad Pilon himself admits that is all about calorie deficit: http://fitnessblackbook.com/dieting_for_fat_loss/the-evolution-of-weight-loss-guest-post-by-brad-pilon/

gruntbrain

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(06/05/09 09:00:37)

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Perhaps just ramp up the training without sweating about where the "physique chips" fall

I intend to enjoy life while I'm still old

Christianiron.naturalstrength...

CLA & Carnitine

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(06/05/09 10:18:52)

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These 2 supps taken daily are supposed to help flush the fat. I have heard good things from some

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gruntbrain

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(06/05/09 12:13:14)

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I believe caffeine is a reliable fat burner & as a bonus it's cheap(Walmart has 90 200 mg caplets for $3.00)

20 minutes of no rest resistance exercises is one approach to healthy calorie burning. HOOK up with some rubber & perform a medley of heart pounding exercises - think circuit training - The HOOK's instant change feature facilitates no rest circuit style training

I intend to enjoy life while I'm still old

Last Edited By: gruntbrain 06/05/09 12:16:49. Edited 1 times.

Royce2u

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(06/05/09 12:23:25)

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longcharles wrote:
I have about 2 1/2 months before a 30 year picnic for my high school graduating class. It's 170 miles away so I don't yet know if I'm going to make it. I still need to drop some fat around my waist (probably less than 10 pounds) and I will no doubt be the best looking guy there.

I have been practicing intermittent fasting and have been losing some fat and I exercise every day. I'm starting to show some vascularity in my arms so the thin layer of fat there is leaving. I would prefer it leave my waist first but it's not.

What I want from this fine group of men is advice on what I can do for the next 2 1/2 months to drop this stubborn fat so that I will look good at this reunion should I decide to go. So let me have it. Give me your best and your worst. I want to hear it all.

All right, I will be the contrarian thinker-so what else is new? Lol!

Can we start by assuming that you aren't obese? I will start with that premise.

O.k…………….let's see…………………are you going to attend in a thong? If not, I don't think anyone is going to be impressed by your "ripped abs" or your vascularity.

No………….I think folks are more likely to be impressed by the look of power and strength-a look that may well elude you if you are dropping ten or more pounds.

Put some beef into your arms and shoulders. Develop your "glutes." Noooooooooooo………..I'm not kidding. Old men don't have asses. And I'm sure you don't want to look like an old man.

Long story short, I think you should focus on packing on muscle rather than obsessing about losing weight. But that's just one man's opinion.

So I would suggest that you consider experimenting with my original HIT routine and the cards fall where they may.

CaptKronos

okay, here it is...

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(06/05/09 14:52:48)

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start now and walk there. Just eat what you can scavenge along the way. You gotta' WANT IT!!! But seriously, I have done IF a few times and dropped weight, but bf% always stays about the same, which leaves you looking the same, only maybe smaller. The only time I ever reduced bf% noticeably was going extremely low carb AND low cal (I'm talking like 800 - 1000 calories a day and near 0 carbs. I basically ate chicken breasts and coffee, and diet Sunkist pops, with some maltitol chocolate bars (they'll help you lose weight in more than one way). It ain't fun, but gits 'er dun.

RUBBERBUS.seriousstrength

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(06/05/09 16:10:34)

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My wife has lost 8 lbs in 2.5 weeks and it's not water as she has to drink almost 2 litres a day. Her protein is 2.6 oz of cheese, nuts, tofu or eggs with lunch and supper and lots of vegs and a piece of fruit. Oats or yogurt with fruit or an egg for breakfast. No snacks between meals. Due to convenience my diet is pretty similar and I'm losing a bit of fat around my waist as well. My waist is 36.5. I'd like to see 35 or less"

Daniel Lurie

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(06/05/09 20:09:09)

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If you restrict calories to 8-10 calories/lb. you should lose weight regardless of food choices, although a relatively high protein intake is most effective. If you're doing IF 2x a week and are active enough, you could burn nearly a lb. on each fasting day. Fasting more than once or twice a week may be too stressful though.

thracian

Hybernation diet

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(06/06/09 03:59:48)

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Try a teaspoon of honey before you go to bed

longcharles

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(06/06/09 07:10:50)

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No I'm not going to wear a speedo or a thong. It would take a lot of money to get me in either. However this will be a picnic at a park. If I wear shorts my finely shaped muscular legs will be visible. If I wear a tank top, the muscles and vascularity on my arms and shoulders will show. And since it is at a park, there will likely be some sort of athletic events taking place during the day and there may be good reason to take off my shirt so everyone can see my finely chiseled abs.

There are a number of good reasons for wanting to be ripped at a class reunion. For instance, showing the girls that dumped you in high school what they missed out on. They can look at their 30-50 pound overweight chubby hubbies and look at me and say, "I used to date him and dumped him for this!" Whatever. I just want to look better if I go. Even if no one sees, I will know. That's good enough. And 2 1/2 months gives me a definite timeline to work with. Goals need to have a time attached to them. This gives me one even if I don't go to the reunion.

Bruno, I've been on the Eat Stop Eat website but I hate ebooks so I never bought his stuff. So he advocates 2 24 hour fasts in a week? And eat normally the rest of the week? Interesting.

Christian Iron, I've heard of CLA and carnitine working but didn't know if that was just wishful thinking or if it actually worked.

Caffeine is out. Too much and I feel horrible.

Low carb is out. I tried that once and felt like crap the whole time. I did it for about 8 weeks. I did drop weight but never adapted to it and felt bad all the while.

Royce, I am not obese. I look slender with clothes on but there's just too much belly fat to look good without a shirt.

Thracian, are you serious? I've never heard of taking a teaspoon of honey before bed. Does that really work or are you yanking my chain? Once I added raw locally produced honey to my diet, I've not had any allergy problems which used to be bad for me. But I've never heard of honey for weight loss before.

Maybe I should go to Bronze Bow and buy a couple of bottles of JP's Chisel.

http://longsfitness.blogspot.com

gruntbrain

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(06/06/09 07:16:47)

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Caffeine: it's all about finding your sweet spot; it's a drug you don't build up a tolerance to. The caffeine in a cup or 2 of green tea may be your sweet spot

I intend to enjoy life while I'm still old

thracian

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(06/07/09 01:40:15)

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"Thracian, are you serious? I've never heard of taking a teaspoon of honey before bed. Does that really work or are you yanking my chain?"

I'm surprised you haven't heard of it. I believe it's called the Hybernation diet. Unless you're allergic to honey give it a try.

Last Edited By: thracian 06/07/09 02:48:46. Edited 2 times.

Bruno

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(06/07/09 02:14:30)

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http://bradpilon.com/

Check out the blog. He provides alot of free info. The IF that Pierini and others are doing is different from the Eat Stop Eat version.

Bruno

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(06/07/09 02:52:13)

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Primer on fasting.

http://www.fitnessspotlight.com/2008/2/27/intermittent-fasting-101-how-to-start-part-i/

thracian

Honey diet

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(06/07/09 03:00:00)

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http://apitherapy.blogspot.com/2006/01/new-hibernation-diet-features-use-of.html

longcharles

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(06/07/09 11:24:31)

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Thanks, Thracian. I had never heard of that particular diet before.

So I need to restrict calories, eat low carb, take CLA and carnitine, consume some caffeine, do a 24 hour fast twice a week, exercise using Royce's original HIT routine, and take a spoonful of honey before bedtime.

Thanks for all the feedback everyone.

http://longsfitness.blogspot.com

upbuilder

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(06/16/09 11:00:13)

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Longcharles,

I don't know what type of exercise vibes with you, although I can say that the following will serve as a base to accentuate the results of whatever exercise system you pursue:

"Checkley's Natural Method of Physical Training"
by Edwin Checkley

The important thing to remember when reading the book is that the exercises listed are NOT Checkley's system. They are for reducing fat and gaining strength, endurance and flexibility so that you can put Checkley's system to work. The system is simply costal breathing, posture and proper carriage when walking. Do not be deceived by the simplicity, or feel that it's not heroic-enough of a physical endeavor to affect a change. Carrying your body all day with your muscles, and not allowing to set on the skeletal system, will give you a workout that makes you feel like you're young & limber, again. It takes weeks of work to sit up straight, &c… for most us whom have acquired the bad habit of slouching.

People say some can't grasp the visualization of AMR/VRT, &c… but I feel it takes much more effort and offers much more physiological reward to train yourself to sit, stand and walk in a manner by which your muscles are carrying your body. Hold yourself properly for 16hrs a day & tell me you haven't received any benefit. You will chuckle with what you've done for yourself. It's so easy to contemplate, but tough to stay true to, for the 1st few weeks.

You have a Vita-Mix blender, so I recommend this book: "Green for Life" by Victoria Boutenko. Even if you do not exercise, the green smoothies will make you feel more focused, relaxed and in good spirits, while trimming you down. It is a powerful aid, if you're truly a going after such effects as being 'ripped,' in such a short span of time.

There is a big wedding in my family this Sept & I've put together some routines for people with various goals. Checkley is in each of them.

Good luck and get after it.

Last Edited By: upbuilder 06/16/09 11:09:53. Edited 1 times.

Royce2u

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(06/16/09 16:07:31)

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Upbuilder,
I know this deviates from the thread, but someone suggested to me that you are Parker. Any idea how or why that idea got started? Just curious.

Last Edited By: Royce2u 06/16/09 16:11:20. Edited 1 times.

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